Life should never be seen as merely a box-ticking exercise, but sometimes that process can help to illuminate the situation, like a spotlight shone on the star of the show. Gina Andrews, the most successful female amateur rider ever, sits at her kitchen table, metaphorical pen in hand. Tick, tick, tick.

“Ten point-to-point championships, more than any other female,” she says, the information coming almost dispassionately, not even the faintest trace of vainglory, delivered as though she was reading from someone else’s roll of honour.